I give up...

[vance580]

I'm about to give up and sell my CR. I had the stator fry at the end of last season. I got it rewound and 2000 miles later my voltage regulator when out when the relay blew. Put in a new relay and voltage regulator over the weekend after waiting 3 months cause the VR was on back order and it is worse then before. Before when the relay and regulator went I would get system voltage and blacked out guages and after a few minutes of riding it would go away and after one time it would never come back again. It only seemed to do this when the bike wasn't warmed up cause if I rode it all day it would of only did it the one time when I first left. Now with the new stuff it's blacked out whenever it's not idling which is all the time. It turns out all my lights too which I found out today trying to get home and almost got rear ended about 10 times since I had no rear or brake light. I wish I did get hit so I can total this thing and sue Harley for not fixing this issue.

Anyone have any other ideas on what could still be causing my system voltage error? I have a new relay, stator, and voltage regulator. By passing the harness does nothing. Could I have been sold a regulator that was worse then my blown one? This weekend I think I'm going to just put in my blown regulator and see what that does. I can live with one time having the error and then nothing for the rest of the day.

It's pretty bad when my 30000 mile XB is more dependable then my 7000 mile 1125.

 

[lotusexcelle]

I'll take that thing off your hands!

 

[twoguns]

it seems that no matter what they have issues when hot. i kept reading of everyone fixing then refixing and fixing again. mine had a fix twice, and still concerned me. in the end she is gone. what you can do about it... RSV4 R aprc! they sit real nice next to an xb. and ride freakin amazingly.

 

[vance580]

I have a friend about to sell his Speed Triple that I've been eyeballing. You pm me an offer lotusexcelle and I'll think about it. It's an 09 black, Barkers exhaust, Race ECM, K&N, and all stock parts, fender eliminator, bar ends, and both uprights and clubmans. Located in Raleigh, NC. Also has brand new Pirelli Angels with less then 2000 miles on them.

 

[DrogeN Omen]

what temperature was the rewound wire standard? i have heard that they originaly only came out with like a 300degree Celcius wire and thats was the problem...

a friend of moine got his rewound with 750 degree celcius wire and his bike is running better then ever.

 

[Theycallmecrash]

So you got a factory regulator? Or an upgrade? Seems to me there are some other options you could wire in to work.

 

[Tork]

... a friend of moine got his rewound with 750 degree celcius wire and his bike is running better then ever.

Molten lava is 700 to 1200 Celsius. Where does your friend ride his bike?

 

[Thaloc]

Everytime I read one of these CR stator threads It makes me glad I never got one, regardless of how sexy they look.

 

[vance580]

I got the rewind from Ricks. I think they just upgrade it from 200 to 240. Other then that everything was replaced with stock. Don't know why I would be still having problems. Anyone have any ideas what it could be.

 

[poinographer]

I suggest you try the EBR rotor before you drop back 7 yards and punt your CR.

 

[vance580]

The rotor isn't going to change the output. I am getting full charging from all phases of the stator. Nothing is abnormal with the stator, I tested that and it is performing as it should be. I'm not sure what the VR should be outputting but I'm getting 28-32 volts on the red and black out of the VR. Do these numbers sound right cause I'm getting them on both VR's? The problem is definitely something after the stator. This may sound dumb but is there some type of reset I should of done with the new VR? I'm just trying to think of anything I can. This weekend I'm reinstalling the original VR and going for a ride around the neighborhood to see what it does.

 

[Jasenko9643]

it seams that you VR is not regulating properly, 14V is the max the VR should output or it will cook your battery, it seams like you didn't properly connect your new VR. I would check all the connections and if they are ok you have bad VR. VR is there to take 25-30V AC out of the stator and transform (regulate) to 12-14V DC
When you say 28-32V are you getting DC or AC out of the VR? AC goes in DC comes out!

P.S. I would remove the "upgrade" harness since you got rewound stator - this was cheap "fix" that doesn’t work - it doesn’t do anything useful you should eliminate it if you have Rick's rewound job

 

[vance580]

You know I asked about removing that harness when my stator got rebuilt on this site and the other and nobody gave me an answer. I'll keep it out of the loop. The volts were DC. On my dash it's saying 18 when I get the spike before it kills the dash. I'm not really sure why it's so high. If I had regulator problems wouldn't it not be providing enough and be low. I wonder what's causing it to be so high. Would a different regulator really do anything?

 

[DrogeN Omen]

my friend got the upgrade and that melted also.

we get 40 degree C' days here during summer with little or no wind sometimes. alot of bikes and cars get fried...

i'll ask my friend exactly what degree the wire was resistant to and update here.

 

[Jasenko9643]

yeah, if you have wired everything correctly you have faulted regulator, I would not run your bike until you have it replaced, with that kind of voltage you are asking for it
btw where are you located

 

[crawfo]

Your regulator doesn't sound like it is regulating as it should.....i would try a different one, or one known to be good. Have any buddies with 1125's? You could swap parts and find the faulty issue

 

[vance580]

Your regulator doesn't sound like it is regulating as it should.....i would try a different one, or one known to be good. Have any buddies with 1125's? You could swap parts and find the faulty issue

I just bought a brand new regulator that is worse then the one I pulled off. They both are doing the same exact thing. That's why I'm so pissed at this thing cause I waited 2 months for this dang regulator to come in only to have it make my bike worse then before. I bought a new regulator because I had the issue whenever I would ride it but only like once then it would go away and be perfectly fine the rest of the day but it would blow my headlight in that process so I stopped buying new headlights and just ran without one. After the 2 month wait because of back order I got a brand new stock regulator and now it won't even come out of system voltage error unless it is idling.

I'm located in the Raleigh NC area.

 

[kendrakaydenkennedi]

Have you read out your stator? Is your battery reading right? It sounds like a V/R issue. They can have high or low outputs, depending on how they failed. I know you said that you already changed it, you may have gotten a bad part. I would start by reading out the voltage at the source and trouble shooting from there. Make sure your V/R is properly grounded. Read out the resistance on it. If you did not upgrade your rotor when you rewound your stator, it could possibly fail again. I did a ton of research when mine failed, I replaced pretty much everything. If your battery is bad or weak, it will give you all kinds of funky issues.

 

[vance580]

Yes, the stator is doing its job on all three phases nothing wrong with that. Had a lose negative on the battery somehow and tightened that up. I pulled the ground from near the swingarm pivot and the one on the very front of the frame and sanded them cleaner and reattached. Now with the new regulator it has gone back to being hit or miss like before. Where should I take the resistance reading and what should it be on the VR? It didn't come with thermal paste so I bought the most expensive stuff at radio shack and coated the whole bottom. Should there be a section not covered on the bottom of the VR for ground. Should I have used a really good thermal paste or just something decent? I also pulled the side shroud and checked all the ECM connections and they were tight. I'll take a battery reading next time I mess with it. I never checked it because the VR was giving such crazy numbers I knew past that would be just as crazy.

 

[Jasenko9643]

use following site for directions on how to test your VR,

http://roadstercycle.com/Stator Testing Example.htm