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My statement stand put guns in the hands of the good citizens of NYC and it would be an even lower number might go from 414 to a few accidental deaths, or how about this only deaths of bad people.
 
WTF is your point?
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Violent crime rate in 2011


New York:


336.8


U.S. Average:


213.6


Violent crime rate in 2010


New York:


315.1


U.S. Average:


223.2


Violent crime rate in 2009


New York:


297.2


U.S. Average:


238.0


Violent crime rate in 2008


New York:


313.2


U.S. Average:


252.4


Violent crime rate in 2007


New York:


330.0


U.S. Average:


259.7


Violent crime rate in 2006


New York:


345.7


U.S. Average:


264.1


Violent crime rate in 2005


New York:


364.9


U.S. Average:


258.9


Violent crime rate in 2004


New York:


373.0


U.S. Average:


256.0


Violent crime rate in 2003


New York:


398.6


U.S. Average:


262.6


Violent crime rate in 2002


New York:


427.5


U.S. Average:


272.2


Violent crime rate in 2000


New York:


526.4


U.S. Average:


277.6


Violent crime rate in 1999


New York:


571.8


U.S. Average:


286.4


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-New-York-New-York.html#ixzz2gbSSeSvf
 
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Yeah NYC avg higher than national avg, and grego I respect your not wanting to have a gun but your only speaking for yourself. Ask yourself this if you lived in a good neighborhood miles from town and someone broke into your home with intent to hurt your family would you rather have a gun or a phone to call the police thats only minutes away when seconds count?
 
Grego did you try to piss us gun lovers off by posting those comments while killing people on grand theft auto 5 with the use of a gun that you stole off a drug dealer trying to pick up a hooker at a local church?
 
I personally LOVE the fact that NY has the strictest gun laws in the country. I feel MUCH safer.
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yeah...cuz' we all know that criminals abide by those strict gun laws, right?? smh
 
Every time someone brings up the "highest prevalence of violent crime/lowest prevalence of gun ownership" relationship, I feel like I need to have a conversation about statistics with them. A very rudimentary understanding of "correlation does not imply causation" makes even the biggest gun ownership proponents question that argument. There are a million confounding variables that likely better explain why metro centers have higher rates of violent crime per capita than their suburban or rural counterparts. It's fear mongering at its very core.

I'm a proud gun owner, too. That's just such a poor argument for why someone should own a gun.
 
theoctopus is on the money there, everyone knows that 7 of 10 statistics are bull ****!!! :D

btw im also a gun owner, and would own more if my wife didn't "need" a boat!
 
2hy,

I just re-read your post. Three more times. And it still doesn't make sense. But then I re-read your screen name. Now it all makes sense.
 
sprk sprd thats funny as hell because I read it and didn't understand it, but I just blew it off. Now that you pointed out his user name I can't stop laughing. Don't get me wrong maybe he is a pilot and was referring to that, but I doubt it! [up] Also I can't force myself to watch "the wild one"
 

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