2-stroke oil experiment.

[ReadyXB]

he said he had tried another one called "Gold-somethingorother".. he said for him, it wasn't has good and ran dirty.

Could be PJ1 Goldfire Pro. I used to run it in my mx bikes.

 

[mrlogix]

I am accepting rep points

shameless hussy alright +1

 

[motoqueiro]

by god it is with pleasure that I say, hot damn it's drinking a lot less fuel than it used to
just did the math today very nice [up]

 

[Gloomshadow]

yes, its true. [up]

 

[imynot]

I want to try this. I have Red Line synthetic 2 stroke oil. Should I try that or get something else? I want to get the 60 weight oil as well. It will be triple digits for the next few months here. I am just getting things together, so when my cast is taken off my right arm, I am back riding.

 

[Gloomshadow]

you could try it.. 2-cycle for air cooled seems to be favored over liquid cooled 2-cycle just to keep things cleaner.

 

[BeDaring08]

I decided to give this a shot on my blast. The bikes a 07, basically stock with a drilled exhaust, open airbox mod and that's it motor wise (for now ). I put about 4 cap fulls into a about 1/2 tank and I noticed a big difference in mid/top range power. Before I would have to switch down to fourth to pass on the highway cruising around 70 and now it pulls strong in 5th. I figured that worked pretty well that at my next fill up I put in a full 1oz with about 2.5 gallons on a full tank. To my surprise she didn't seem to like that much. My lower end seemed to want to stumble a bit and not pull as hard. So today I'm going to put a gallon of fresh fuel in my tank and see how she goes. That will put me to about a 1/2oz per tank. I'm using some blue bottle 2 stroke oil from Walmart for air cooled small engines. I think it's called premium but I can't remember. I'll check later.

 

[s0dhi]

1oz : 4gal seems to be the ideal mixture.

 

[1125RBlaster]

Okay, I have read the whole thread and have a couple questions.

1. I have some Motul 600 2T 2-stroke pre-mix for my old KTM (liquid cooled bike).....anyone use this stuff and would I still mix it 1-2oz per tank for my Blast and 1125R?

2. I also have an other carbureted sportster, would this mix ration work well in that too. Haven't seen any feedback regarding carbureted bikes.

This is awesome, riding bikes for almost 30 years and never heard of this, but I am willing to try it out on all my bikes (6 total now).

Thanks everyone.
Jeremy

 

[1125RBlaster]

I was talking with a friend and he asked if anyone has done any type of oil analysis like a Blackstone Lab. Diesel guys submit these for analysis every oil change and they can determine metal wear, engine coolant, water, and all sorts of other things. They can test gas engines as well as diesels. This might be a good way to get a real good look at how healthy your engine is. If you provide a clean sample of the oil you use they can determine the proper mileage interval too and how deteriorated the oil has become from the miles on the engine.

Just wanted to provide everyone that there is another method of verifying/validating that using 2-stroke oil in gas tanks is okay. I know some people are looking for hard facts vice seat of pants results or calculated increases in fuel mileage.

Here is the link to their website: http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

BeDaring08 - I'm also going to try this out on my Blast before I jump into other bikes. I think your is carbureted too if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks

 

[thrstrmech]

thanks for the link, that is the best way to verify...I do it for aircraft turbine engines and APU's.

 

[BeDaring08]

I figured 1oz might be to much but I figured why not try it. Havnt done anything today besides sit outside and enjoy the weather lol. I have a few errands to do a little later I'll but some gas in and see how she does.

 

[s0dhi]

I've mixed Amsoil Dominator at 2oz/20L in my refueling can. That works out to a 1:340 ratio which is a little on the heavy side. The XB9 drinks it up just fine. I do think that sub-3000rpm may be no better or even worse, but above 3000rpm is definitely better. I'm going to ease up on the ratio to a 1:480 or 1:512 in the next gas can to see if the results are better.

 

[Gloomshadow]

I saw an oil analysis from a guy that was running 1:600 in his Corvette, he had about a year of this under his belt.. results came out "excellent", way above normal. I cant find it now though.. I was hitting a lot of Hot Rod forums and I cant remember what one it was where I found that.

 

[Gloomshadow]

to everyone... 1 part 2-cycle to 600 parts fuel (you do the math based on the size of your tank) is the good baseline as a starting point. I bumped it up to 1 part per 300 and both my 984 and my 1203 liked it, but its going to depend on your setup. Stock or modified fuel maps, filters, exhausts, engine oil , carbs or injected , one piston or two, liquid cooled or air-cooled.. ALL of that is probably going to be a factor in what you end up with. You are going to have to find out what works best with what. OH, and my 9SX is running dual air scoops , that also makes a difference from what I can tell.. I may swap them over to my 12 and see what the reaction is.
For me, Im race mapped, KN filters all around, Jardine exhaust and 20w-60HD Redline ( I REALLY recommend that Redline 60.. makes a big difference)

 

[Gloomshadow]

running dual air scoops on my 9 also, I may switch them over to my 12 just to see if I get a reaction...

 

[BeDaring08]

I've ran a few tanks of ½oz per tank on my blast and so far so good. I've been getting better midrange to top end pull and same or maybe a little bit better gas mileage. The only down fall is on start up it wants to stumble a bit tell warmed up, but some of that has to deal with carb tuning(I'm still waiting on the mail for my carb parts).

 

[mriulvr]

Well the rain has finally ended in north central Texas so I have been able to get back out on the road. I added about 1 - 1.2 ounces at last fill up Monday. What I can definitely report is that she is idling smoother with less vibrating and rpm bouncing. The top end is silky smooth and has more torque, actually caught me off guard as I was not expecting that. Gas light has not come on yet although I am just over 100 miles into the fill up so no report on fuel mileage yet. Can't say that I have noticed any difference in the fuel pump but honestly haven't paid as much attention to that. Haven't had any of the start up issues others have reported.

Dual scoops, K&N filter, breather reroute, Hawk exhaust, race map tuned.

 

[303xb]

Alright, I'm a believer. Next fill up I'm putting in some 2 stroke

 

[Gloomshadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkd9QS3yGl0

Listen to what Jay Leno says at 10:00 about adding oil to your fuel on his old Knucklehead.