K, went with a cheapo set of mtn bike mirrors (Axiom) on my bike. Have Rizoma bars and made a threaded insert for them. Work awesome, need a little refinement on the brackets, but have convinced me that bar ends are the way to go. With the stock mickey mouse ears all I could see were my shoulders, Oberon, Rizoma, all good. May end up makin my own. Bar ends are definately the way to go tho'[up]