DDM HID install

[MustangGuy]

Found a good HID install write up on badweatherbikes. It seems to be fairly straightforward. OK, DDM customers, I have TWO RED wires with spade connectors coming out of the HID harness. These I think are supposed to be the ground and the connection to the relay (since all other connections are accounted for). How do I know which is which - or does it matter? Thanks

 

[TreyE]

Hmmmmmm, post up a picture Im not sure I understand what youre saying. Might just be me, day's almost over lol

 

[TreyE]

Ahhh nevermind I think I know what youre talking about. Those are what go into the stock wiring harness to let the ballasts know when to ignite the bulb. The wiring that went to the original halogen bulbs, where those bulbs plugged in is where those connectors go.

 

[wifarmboy]

Got a link to that write up maybe...[smirk]

 

[MustangGuy]

Yeah, I think that's how they would go if not using a relay, but with a relay, the stock wires go to the relay. I guess I'm just a little confused because both wires are red and I don't know which goes where. I'll check it all out again when I get home from work and will post a pic too. Thanks

 

[netty2424]

Did you install a relay, or was there a relay already there? if not, it should be plug'n'play. I installed mine without a relay and it literally plugged right up.

 

[TreyE]

http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/517861.html?1313566719

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/233088.html

Hope that helps.

 

[MustangGuy]

Thanks TreyE - I had already found the first link but not the second - there's some great pics - very clear. I am such an idiot! I was going to take a pic to post so I laid everything out and then I realized that one of the two wires in question IS black - which is the ground. The red one goes to the relay. The manufacturer put a RED spade connector on the BLACK wire so when I looked at them, I thought I saw two red ones. Anyway, it will be very straightforward to install. Hopefully I'll have time tonight. Thanks all for the advice!

 

[bigflash1]

Buell lights install

 

[bartjo06]

Just did the same install with the same write up a few weeks ago, let me know if you have any questions.

 

[MustangGuy]

Just finished HID install. Glad I didn't put front fairing back on because - F***!!!! It doesn't work! I think the relay is the problem. I wanted a delay relay and actually had a hard time finding one. I bought a voltage-dependant relay from Ebay. At 13.5 volts it's supposed to kick over. I know my charging system puts that out. I also know I wired everything correctly because the relay had a 5th connection - 87A - which is always energized (even with the ignition switch off) and if I connect to that, the light fires right up. I think I'm going to just put a regular relay on it. I guess I'll be going the toggle switch route.

Hey barto06 - thanks for the offer - what did you use for the really?

 

[MustangGuy]

Well, I went to Pep Boys and got a standard relay - $20 for something that probably cost 20 cents to make, oh well - and hell yeah, it fired right up! The bike's outside and it's sunny but the color looks awesome (6K) - crisp with a hint of blue. I'm leaving the high beam as is because I I don't want to try to cram another HID system in there plus I switch the high beam off and on a lot driving home at night. I was thinking about a toggle switch but then there's the issue of mounting it and making it look decent. I'm just gonna let the light warm up with the key in the on position for a minute or so while I'm getting ready to get on the bike. The bulb may not last as long but I doubt it this would drastically reduce it's life. Can't wait for a night ride!! Thanks all for the help and advice!

 

[MustangGuy]

Well, the night ride will have to wait. After the last post I went out for a ride (even though it was 105 degrees out). The speedometer is not working, which means the backlighting is probably out too. Either there's a blown fuse or I managed to loosen a connection when I was working on the HID wiring. I was too hot and too tired to get into it, but now I know what I'll be doing on my next day off! Here's a pic of how I mounted the relay and HID boxes:

The relay is above the low beam, the smaller box (ignitor?) is between the lights and the ballast is above the high beam mounted at an angle. I was able to screw it to the headlight mounting bracket from the bottom. I also used 3M automotive molding tape on everything wherever it touched.

 

[TreyE]

http://www.kryptonbulbs.com/Two-Bulb-HID-Delay-Relay-Harness

Plug N Play

 

[bartjo06]

Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier man. I ended up doing mine just like the Badweatherbikes write up with 2 standard relays since I installed both high and low beam HIDs. Mine is working great, but, like you said, it was just a pain to find the real estate to install everything. I got my relays from a local car parts store for like $4, sounds like Pep Boys is out to make a killing.

 

[MustangGuy]

Thanks TreyE - I didn't come across that set up in my searches. I may swap out the standard relay for that, but I need to figure out what happened to my speedo first. Glad to hear your set up is working fine, bart. I had no idea the relay I was buying from Pep Boys was so much. They guy had to search for it and it wasn't marked with a price when he found it. I didn't ask - I assumed it would be less than $10. I just wanted to get back to work on the bike and not drive to another parts store and waste more time. The next time I need any kind of parts I'm going directly to Napa or one of the other "real" auto parts places. Pep Boys is great for everything automotive except parts!

 

[Zeroflat24]

Thanks TreyE - I didn't come across that set up in my searches. I may swap out the standard relay for that, but I need to figure out what happened to my speedo first. Glad to hear your set up is working fine, bart. I had no idea the relay I was buying from Pep Boys was so much. They guy had to search for it and it wasn't marked with a price when he found it. I didn't ask - I assumed it would be less than $10. I just wanted to get back to work on the bike and not drive to another parts store and waste more time. The next time I need any kind of parts I'm going directly to Napa or one of the other "real" auto parts places. Pep Boys is great for everything automotive except parts!

i have worked for pepboys going on 10 years now. Napa has good parts but is expensive (at least the one here) and autozone/advanced auto literally sells the EXACT parts as pepboys. They use the same vendors as us and their corporate guys come into pepboys to get an idea on how to set up their stores. As far as your relay goes, they are all expensive because its an electronic piece.

 

[MustangGuy]

No offense intended. It seems hard sometimes to state a less-than-positive opinion about something without running the risk of offending someone. Any business - corporate or independent is only as good as the people who staff it. I'm thinking it's probably just the one individual who I often deal with there. I don't know if it's just me or other customers too. He usually acts like I'm keeping him from something more important and doesn't seem to want to help beyond pointing to an aisle. He didn't know what a relay was. I had to describe what it looked like. Then he brought me a flasher. Eventually he found the relay. He's not fresh out of high school either, so I assume he would have appropriate parts knowledge. I'm pretty sure I paid too much for the relay, but I was there, my bike was apart and I just wanted to finish the work before the day ended. Last year I bought an EGR valve from them for my 85 Mustang - special order. Stupidly I waited several months to install it and I discovered it was for a Ford Tempo. I ended up getting the correct one from an internet company. Truth is, I will continue to buy from Pep Boys (did I mention I've spent nearly $1000 in the last year there for parts and supplies for my bikes and cars?) because I like the store and it's really close to my house, but it's always good to have options. Peace.

 

[Retrax]

For guys that have done this install, I think the write up mentions tying the signal wire for the relay into the power wire for the low beam to activate the low beam headlight relay and tying into the high beam power wire to signal the high beam relay to turn on (and additionally running the main relay power for both relays directly to the battery).

My question is, won't wiring it this way cause the low beam HID to turn off when the high beam switch is turned on? I did the "both headlights on with high beam" mod on my bike with the standard headlights on my Scg. Wouldn't I need to power the trigger for the low beam relay signal into the PARKING lamp wire so the relay will stay energized when I turn on the high beams? I plan on only running HID on low beam and using the regular bulb in the high beam because I live in a big city and have to toggle high beam on and off a lot.

I would think using the low beam power to trip the relay would re-visit the same issue before the dual headlight on mod. Maybe I was reading a writeup on a Firebolt as opposed to a Lightning? Do Firebolts in their stock form keep both high and low beams on when switched to high beam?

 

[gtp3800]

Do Firebolts in their stock form keep both high and low beams on when switched to high beam?

Yes, stock when you put high beam on, the low beam stays on. My bike is the scg and i put the r front on. Sooo I had to cut the switches off and change the wiring in order to make both lights stay on.

I would like to do this HID install as well, my lights suck at night. If im looking for just good reliable HID's, what do you all recommend? 35w 55w 6k 12k, I dunno which ones [confused]