Smoked by a GSX-R 750

[eicas]

I am replacing my Honda VFR800A with an XB12Ss.

Both bikes have about the same amount of power, but I think that I can be faster on the Honda.

It makes sense, Honda has a V-4, 4 valves per cylinder, 6 speed transmission, higher redline, etc.

There is no way that the Buell's engine can be as efficient an airpump as my Honda. The point is that both bikes are a lot faster than I am, and the Buell is mor fun and a better all around bike for me on the street, .... so the Honda goes.

If I wanted the fastest "racing" bike, I would not have either one.

 

[maybebuell]

havent been around in a while hanging around the vmax fourm ...wanted to stop buy and say happy holiday guys..in a lot of ways the vmax is like a buell..its not the fastest or the quickest anymore..25 year old technology,,still has carbs...but like the buell its still one of the best looking bikes made...in a strange way i enjoy it for what it is not...and what it was at one time......but look ill still kick a buells ass ...have a great new year guys......azsnow keep rocking brother

 

[norgetab]

mezap,, right on,,,, if i wan to wac you i would be riding a machine i was sure to wac you....a Buell is about something else...

 

[06xb9r]

This post is old BUT mom jokes are good...
...if they're good

 

[FIDOSOL]

Yes this is true...

 

[Thaloc]

rabblerabblerabblerabble. I dont care if some gixxer can out perform me. My 08 XB12R is the sexiest thing on two wheels. Everybody and there mother has a ninja,gsxr,R1, and ill take all their girlfriends with my sexy ass Buell[cool]

 

[Ls2_Xb9r]

Why did you say the Xb9r is heavier than the 750...

The 750 is over 400 dry and the xb9r is around 386 dry.


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[yorkshirelad]

I had an R1 before I changed it for my XB12s and I loved it, but everyhting got predictable and boring.Ive been riding a long time and had lots of bikes, but I always remember the feeling I had when I first started riding. The feeling of sheer happiness and exhileration when riding in those early days is back. Grin factor 10!!!

 

[only1reds]

hey sorry, the word "RULE" was specifically made for BUELL.

Just that simple, "BUELL's RULE".

My 2¢ [up]

 

[Dragonslayer]

A Gixxer 750 is faster than a XB in a straight line. So what? Anyone can go fast in a straight line. The twisties is what seperates the men from the boys. I've passed several Gixxers. I've had both bikes and I'll take the XB12R over a Gixxer any day.

 

[Rocky Bar]

Everyone has a choice. I love the feeling of my Buell for the ride and the rush. Over the years had many bikes, the Buell is by-far the most fun. My 2-cents.

 

[GatorBuell]

In straight lines at high speed yeah, but I can beat just about any jap bike off the line until 80mph. And in the twisties they have no chance.

I used to think that until a few weeks ago I went on a ride with a few friends. Me and a buddy pulled out on a two lane road at the same time in different lanes and got on the gas. He was on a 1098 Duc, when I hit the soft limiter in second he was already 50 yards ahead of me getting on the breaks for traffic. I love my bike for what it is and what it does for me but Im not naive to think my bike is something that its not.

 

[stopie20]

Well, first I cant believe this thread was revived I read through it yesterday and couldn believe the redicoulous arguements I was hearing so I decided it was better not to post, but since its been brought back to life... HERE WE GO.

As some of you know I have two bikes one being my XB12s and the other being the 2006 ZX-10R that my wife rides. anyone who knows bikes knows that theres not much on the planet (production type) that will out accelerate the ZX-10. that being said I rode the 10 for two seasons before selling the wifes 600RR and buying the buell, when people I knew would ask me if the 10 was fast I would respond plainly with "this bike scares the **** outta me" the shift light doesn't come on until around 90mph in first gear!

I bought the buell because I have a fatal attraction to its looks and had to have one. This bike is soo much fun, after a short adjustment period, it does every thing so well its hard to believe that more people dont have one.

Now. These two bikes are not in the same league (this is why cycle world does NOT test them in a comparo) or you wont see a Buell in sport bike shootout. They are not comparable and are built to serve two different types of riding.

The 10 emmulates a RACE bike and is cool to ride and great for someone who has a deathwish, but is more work than its worth to ride on the street.

The buell has great torque = less shifting, handles light and nimble at all speeds, clears RR tracks in a single bound, and the only time this bike challenges it rider is trying to leave a stop light slow and smooth.

Bottom line. BOTH bikes do what they were designed to do and you ( I dont care how fast you think you are ) will never use either one to its full potential on the street.

As far as whats faster? It only depends on the rider and the environment.

 

[Nuage420b]

[up] well said stopie. . .rep point

 

[jonhall205]

Never rode a buell. Knew nothing more than displacement and a cuple things here and there when I test rode. I remember telling the sales rep to idle it up, that it was about to die. I got on it. An 05 xb12r that I own today. I red lined it a lot not meaning to. Couldn't even hear the motor. Almost the whole ride. Coming off a cbr 600, I thought I was about to be peeled off the seat. Instead I was... kinda disapointed with the straight line speed. I didn't do my research on the power. It wasn't till after I got off and thought to myself what is this bikes' purpose.

I think the secret to the xb's success is uniqueness. Some people like to be different. Me being one. Its not some magical motorcycle that will send you through the twisties faster than other newer pocket rockets. That mainly depends on the rider, tires, and the bike but not solely. I've been down the dragon tail haulin some serious ass on my firebolt but I imagine I could do the same time on a newer r1. I know I will be shifting a lot more but I think I could do it.

I'm not really making a point I guess but I will say I love my buell. It is different and I am different. I sometimes miss the in-lines when I'm hot at a traffic light downtown, but then I hurry to get moving again. I get a kick out of folks asking me what bike I'm riding. People make things too complicated. Wheelbase, torque, rake, and weight is what makes the buell so damn fun to ride, especially through the twisties!

 

[racepro716]

Hey stopie...as for you not caring how fast anybody thinks they are...I've won 2 Canadian 125GP class championships, raced amateur for 3 years, pro for 5 years and think I'm a pretty good rider. My old 84 GPz 750 was still a lot better bike then I am as a rider, I'm not even gonna think I could push my 08 firebolt to it's limits. Track or street. Wayne

 

[stopie20]

Wayne, that was my point exactly. That all of the above machines cannot be used to their full potential on the street, by even the fastest rider.

 

[meetch]

wow...2 Canadian 125gp championships, that's pretty awesome RacePro!! any photos of you in action? I loved watching the 125s at Shannonville...

 

[Ronson]

I take my XB12 Lightning long to the track at Barbgallow raceway every month (Perth, Western Australia) its stock apart from being an 09 with a set of tuned headers, open airbox mod and a Drummer muffler....I've got the Pilot Power 2CT's fitted.

The circuit is reasonably short with some fast corners, i beat all of the Jap stuff in the corners, and some Ducati's, the Jap 600's can beat me on the straights, and the thou's just fly past...bottom line is most of them don't pull out of the corners as hard as me, can't go as fast in the corners, as for the straight line stuff? well 1250 barrels, stage 3 race head and cams from NRHS will come soon and these will help, progressive springs will be fitted to the front at the 10,000 mile service. Maybe I might hold them off for a bit....but at the end of the day everyone comes to look at my bike at the track days, everyone says it looks amazing, it sounds great, it has almost 90 pounds feet of torque at the back wheel, and it gives me a huge grin, I don't care if I get beat in the straights, I can compete and win in the corners, all of those Jap guys and most of the Ducatis would love my Buell....it makes me smile, and it looks beautiful, its unique, its rare and it is fast in the right hands, but it is at the ned of the day the evolution of a 1957, 2 valve, pushrod V twin motor, and like everything it has its limitations, but on balance I would not have any other bike, all I need to do is work on my corner speed, the other bikes all need a serious facelift and will alwasy look the same....

 

[Lohani]

all this corner speed vs straight line speed got me wondering how good buell would have done if finish lines were after a series of several turns instead of in the middle of long straight aways