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P3_techman
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I heard a story from an MSF instructor who's ride is a Beamer, with all the bells and whistles. He said that The ABS has saved him from going over once, someone slammed on the brakes in front of him and he grabbed an handful, it started to nose over a little, then the ABS kicked in and allowed him to come to an incredibly quick and controlled stop.
Apparently it rarely kicks in otherwise. As far as the TCS goes, I have no clue.
I personally agree with the "keep that off my bike" sentiment. but I guess it works.
Apparently it rarely kicks in otherwise. As far as the TCS goes, I have no clue.
I personally agree with the "keep that off my bike" sentiment. but I guess it works.
Mark XB12r
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chp don't mess around, when my group of 4 got pulled over in Ca they called in the back up first then hit the lights. Two pursuit Camaro's two Crown Vic's and a chopper. Then they got in box formation then hit the lights, very aggressive like...
IMO traction control and ABS is good for people who don't understand how the systems work, or for poor drivers/riders. I really think I can stop a car/bike nearly as fast as ABS can. I have an F100 that I have had a few close calls in(has horrible braking system) and you just have to know how to work the brakes to keep them from locking. Same on the bike, have had a couple panic stops and have never let the tires really lock for more time than it takes to notice.
The systems do work, most of the time, but I've also had an instance in my s10 where for some reason when the ABS pump kicked in the pedal went soft(like it's supposed to) then after the pump went off the pedal never firmed up, I just lost brakes completely. Had to swerve off the road to avoid the collision.
What really sucks about it on my truck is there is no "off" button. Well there actually is, but it only disables it partially, not fully. It's kind of embarrassing when you have nearly 400hp and go to do a burnout and all you get is a chirp then nothing lol. Then you remember to press the "off" button and can smoke the tires. I remember when my buddy got a chevy silverado SS in high school, it was the same way, all that power but with all the restriction you couldn't have any fun with it. Having that much power and not being able to burn out sucks.
The systems do work, most of the time, but I've also had an instance in my s10 where for some reason when the ABS pump kicked in the pedal went soft(like it's supposed to) then after the pump went off the pedal never firmed up, I just lost brakes completely. Had to swerve off the road to avoid the collision.
What really sucks about it on my truck is there is no "off" button. Well there actually is, but it only disables it partially, not fully. It's kind of embarrassing when you have nearly 400hp and go to do a burnout and all you get is a chirp then nothing lol. Then you remember to press the "off" button and can smoke the tires. I remember when my buddy got a chevy silverado SS in high school, it was the same way, all that power but with all the restriction you couldn't have any fun with it. Having that much power and not being able to burn out sucks.
not even close if you really think this then you dont understand abs.
burnouts are for kids that want to look cool and fit in it really isnt safe on the street either.if you wanted you truck to really perform going straight and in the turns you woild love tcs.
My truck is not a sports car by any means, and how is doing a burnout(standind still) dangerous? I know it can't handle great(it does weigh 5,300lb) and it's not a rocket but it's pretty strong for a 287cid.
You're right it is kind of to "show off". It's just fun. Nothing dangerous about it. It's not like I stop on I4 and do a burnout in 70mph traffic or something stupid like that. I don't ever do it as a "hey look at me" thing, I just do it because it's fun.
I understand how ABS works, and know a computer can react faster than a human brain, but there are long delays with ABS systems after when the pump engages(pedal goes soft), the tires stop skidding, and when the pump turns off and the pedal firms up again. I swear sometimes it's like 1-2 seconds and that's a long ass time in a panic stop.
I've used both and feel like I can stop just as fast with a non ABS vehicle.
I was riding a while ago with 2 other buells and a ducati duvail(spelling?) that had ABS. We all got into a panic stop(don't ask....I guess none of us were paying attention). and the other two buells ended up not stopping and one swerved around the car on the shoulder, the other off into the grass. The ducati stopped short of the car, and so did I. We were all travelling in a tight group, same speed, etc.
FYI they say one reason EBR is doing so well against all the other bikes in competition is because it has one huge advantage....no electronics such as traction control, etc.
You're right it is kind of to "show off". It's just fun. Nothing dangerous about it. It's not like I stop on I4 and do a burnout in 70mph traffic or something stupid like that. I don't ever do it as a "hey look at me" thing, I just do it because it's fun.
I understand how ABS works, and know a computer can react faster than a human brain, but there are long delays with ABS systems after when the pump engages(pedal goes soft), the tires stop skidding, and when the pump turns off and the pedal firms up again. I swear sometimes it's like 1-2 seconds and that's a long ass time in a panic stop.
I've used both and feel like I can stop just as fast with a non ABS vehicle.
I was riding a while ago with 2 other buells and a ducati duvail(spelling?) that had ABS. We all got into a panic stop(don't ask....I guess none of us were paying attention). and the other two buells ended up not stopping and one swerved around the car on the shoulder, the other off into the grass. The ducati stopped short of the car, and so did I. We were all travelling in a tight group, same speed, etc.
FYI they say one reason EBR is doing so well against all the other bikes in competition is because it has one huge advantage....no electronics such as traction control, etc.
lithiumion
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What did you think of his divael?
I didn't ride it but it is nice. He had a really nice firebolt before and sold it to get the ducati. Not my type of bike, I don't like most bikes as I can always find something about the look that I don't like, but it was a great performing bike that's for sure. Style is really dependent on the person and is all objective.
Damn I just realized that in the time I took reading through all this and watching the vids (nice roads BTW), I could have gotten part of a ride in. lol
Really it just boils down to 'to each his own' .
There will be those who will never agree that being a complete speed junky is worth the risks while others will never accept anything less than balls out. I think most of us fall in between.
Really it just boils down to 'to each his own' .
There will be those who will never agree that being a complete speed junky is worth the risks while others will never accept anything less than balls out. I think most of us fall in between.
Theycallmecrash
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So one of my chicks just bought an 06 r6s, zippy little thing. She cant ride yet so its mine to play with, just got back from a ride few minutes ago and im so thankful to get back on my xb12r. Nothing like it nothing will make me smile the same.
-side-sidenote: i would just like to apologize to everybody on this forum. you are complaining about getting left by R1's, i just got my taint stomped into the ground by a group of harley's at a light on the way home (not that i'm usually one of those ******** racing lights, but when the group leader took off i had to chase) and my own sloppy shifting and bad launch were definitely to blame, but what really bugged me was the thought that there are probably a group of harley riders at a bar somewhere laughing about how slow buells are.
Atta boy.....owning up. Man that was good for a laugh.
Just like a few days back I was waiting at a light on an incline.....got a car load of girls next to me and I give one of those "I'm cool" looks over at them and kill the bike on take of.
P3_techman
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It's funny because you didn't finish the take off there either.
Anyone who says they haven't done something at least close to this is probably lying.
