Let's talk guns

[Black Knight]

Delta One - I would pass on the Glaser rounds. Do a bit of searching on google to find that they consistently fall short on penetration. They make one hell of an ugly looing wound, but that may not be enough to incapacitate a bad guy when you need to.

BuellerPilot - While the 5.7 seems to fit a unique role in the gun world us regular civilians aren't worth enough to have access to the armor piercing rounds that were designed for military use. The FN PS-90 also uses the round and while it's not my cup of tea there's something to be said about a 50 round magazine.....the Secret Service adopted it and regularly patrols the White House with PS-90s....there's something to be said about that.

 

[bttrfngrz]

isn't the 5.7x 28 under scrutiny for it's armor piercing capabilities and about to be banned? i would own a ps-90 if i hadn't heard that.

 

[BuellerPilot]

Not that I need them, but I can get the 5.7X28 armor piercing rounds. 223 and 30 cal also.

~Mike.......

 

[BuellerPilot]

isn't the 5.7x 28 under scrutiny for it's armor piercing capabilities and about to be banned? i would own a ps-90 if i hadn't heard that

Haven't heard anything new about this. It used to be exclusivly only avaiable to military and Police agencies, but now can be purchased by anyone. Getting armor piercing rounds on the otherhand is nearly impossible and illegal.

I seen a FN five seven under glass at Bass Pro Shopes after this one was aquired and was shocked that Bass Pro carried it. Can't be under too much scrutiny. I buy all 5.7 ammo from Bass as well.

~Mike......

 

[Bolty]

My little pistol

S&W .460 magnum 200gr bullet muzzle velocity of 2200fps

 

[turbosvt]

I've got a few spikes lowers I'm building up. I bought 4 when they were on sale for $89 a peice a year ago. Couldn't pass on them at that price.

 

[delta one]

what happens to the owners of 5n7's if the gun is banned?

New Orleans style collections and gun roundups?

Delta One - I would pass on the Glaser rounds. Do a bit of searching on google to find that they consistently fall short on penetration. They make one hell of an ugly looing wound, but that may not be enough to incapacitate a bad guy when you need to.

there is a delicate balance between under penetration and over penetration, not sure what side of that edge I would like to be.

BUT That is two bueller gun guys against glaser rounds, I'll take your guys's word on it over the glasser media propaganda and stick to cor-bon ammo for defense use and ball rounds for cutting paper.

 

[BikerTrash]

28003, looking good! How is that LPK? Good quality parts? For $55 I am thinking about getting one just to have it.

 

[28003]

Seems like quality parts. Trigger pull is nice and break is clean and crisp, not "crunchy" like some are known to be. Everything fits nice and tight. My only beef: the safety selector is kinda loose, but it works. I'm happy with it and would buy it again so far. We'll see how well it works with the upper in the future.
FYI, I was gonna order the Daniel Defense LPK but some sites were out of stock and others were expensive and came with the A2 grip, which I would've replaced anyway.

 

[Black Knight]

Delta One - Please don't take my word on it. Don't know if you've every checked out brassfetcher.com or theboxotruth.com, but both are valuable resources when you aren't wealthy enough to buy various types of ammo to try out for yourself.

I've never shot any Cor-Bon, but from everything I've read it's loaded fairly hot which makes for a good performer.

I agree there's a fine line between under penetration and over penetration, but once you start factoring in clothing, weird body angles, whether the bad guy had his arms in front of him, etc. I'd much rather have too much punch than not enough. Just my .02

 

[delta one]

I have never been to brassfetcher but I have visited boxoftruth a few times, I really liked the Buick of truth [smirk]

for cor-bon I know that Massad Ayoob recommends it especially in 9mm and he has probably forgotten more about guns and shooting than I will ever know. if you haven't yet look up some of his stuff on the net, there are also a few institutional youtube videos available.

 

[delta one]

ok after looking a bit I am not too worried about under penetrating with a Glasser round in a .357 magnum, energy on target will be severe enough to drop nearly anybody and the subsequent follow up shots will do the rest.

In a 9mm I'm sticking to Cor-Bon

in my .22? dang I don't think it matters much[confused]

 

[vanson1200r]

I use Cor-Bon Pow-R-Balls in .45 for my 1911 G.I. model. Ayoob has some great articles!

 

[BikerTrash]

Scope rings are back-ordered, but I got one of these guys!

 

[uly luigi]

Finally got pics of the estate sale guns
I forgot I don't know how to upload photo's

 

[uly luigi]

Is there a reason we can't upload directly from our computers? Would be a whole lot easier.

 

[augustus_01]

BikerTrash,

Where did you find your AR15 ornament?

 

[BikerTrash]

That would be an ERTL Force One Die Cast M16 from 1989. I had the full set as a kid, now I just have the M16 and a M60.

 

[delta one]

The plastic ones that you get for 25-50 cents out of the toy machines (commonly at the enterance of a grocery store) are surprisingly detailed. I used to get them for my GI Joes as a kid

 

[crxtasy169]

So the lowers for the ar15s that I'm seeing on here, do they have selector switches for semi and full auto? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I just got my first ar a few months ago and would like some more info on building them. I would like to learn how to build my own as well as learn mods and maintaining my own. I read the manual but it only goes so far.