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just picked this up yesterday. its a HK P30 .40, most comfortable handgun ive ever held.
 
I didn't know that the safety slugs slowed down that much in clothing, I thought the "ball" would help clear the fabric. I was contemplating the cor-bon as well, I know there are a few guys that swear by it but the data on the glaser was very impressive. Ill probably go the cor-bon route instead.
 
Do you guys literally build your own gun? If so is it to get a better quality setup or is just cheaper???
 
With this build, I am just buying the lower receiver, assembling the lower parts kit and stock assembly, and I'm going to buy the upper. You can build the whole thing and have a completely custom rifle by picking your upper receiver, bcg, barrel, etc. Some guys even buy a milled lower receiver that's 80% (or less) completed and finish the milling themselves, usually to avoid either FFL fees or registration. I'm not building my upper because it requires tools i don't have and has some steps i'm not entirely comfortable with doing myself, but they aren't that bad. Maybe i'll do that with my next build.
If you assemble the rifle yourself:
1. its cheaper
2. you can customize it, which most ppl would do with a complete rifle anyway
3. satisfaction doing it yourself and knowing you have a skill 99.99% of ppl don't have
I decided to build my own, mainly because I wanted to learn how it works internally, gain a skill, and as a hobby. IMHO, if something breaks, I like to fix it. In order to do that, I have to know what broke, how it works, and then what to do. And when the Zombie Apocalypse happens, that's going to be important.
This build is going to be a basic, non-tacticool, high quality, reliable, "bug-out" rifle. If I were to buy a completed rifle configured the way i want, it would cost about $2000. Building it myself, it'll cost around ~$800.
 
I set out to build a cheaper gun. It still ended up costing me roughly $1000 but I still saved a few hundred dollars and most likely have a one off rifle.

I have to admit my situation is probobly easier than most. My buddy who helped me put it together works at a local gun shop which also has a gunsmith.

So I was able to get my parts at cost and use the gunsmith's tools.
 
@riderdie

Nice! Damn i wish i was more of a "people-person" so i could befriend a gun shop owner.....or buell tuner.....or Tacoma suspension shop owner.....or.....
 
FN Five Seven

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Shoots a 5.7mm X 28mm armor piercing capable round. Depends where you read, but muzzle velocities have been said north of 2,000 feet per second which makes it the fastest hand gun round available.

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Looks like a damn rifle cartridge!

Clip holds 10 rounds, a 20 round clip is available.

Gun is SUPER light. Feels lighter then a Glock 33 357 sig with NO clip with this gun having a full magazine!

Very little recoil, I love it.

Just recently available to the public, it was exclusive to Military and Police only most likely due to it's armor piercing capablilty.

~Mike.........
 
You should see what this gun's rounds did to a fire extinguisher I had laying around :O And I thought the 357 SIG was badass!

~Mike....
 
it was foolish of me to sell my five seven three years ago. as with most sells i am still kicking my self. but now i have a wife and she wont let me sell anymore,Yayy!
 
Bass Pro belive it or not sells FN guns now! This gun was purchased through a buddy of mine who owns his own Gun shop at an increadable price, but Bass Pro is closer and carries ammo for it which is pretty cool seeing as only one gun in the world uses this round. And the 5-7 ammo is cheaper then my damn 45 rounds!

~Mike.......
 
Delta One - I would pass on the Glaser rounds. Do a bit of searching on google to find that they consistently fall short on penetration. They make one hell of an ugly looing wound, but that may not be enough to incapacitate a bad guy when you need to.

BuellerPilot - While the 5.7 seems to fit a unique role in the gun world us regular civilians aren't worth enough to have access to the armor piercing rounds that were designed for military use. The FN PS-90 also uses the round and while it's not my cup of tea there's something to be said about a 50 round magazine.....the Secret Service adopted it and regularly patrols the White House with PS-90s....there's something to be said about that.
 
isn't the 5.7x 28 under scrutiny for it's armor piercing capabilities and about to be banned? i would own a ps-90 if i hadn't heard that.
 
isn't the 5.7x 28 under scrutiny for it's armor piercing capabilities and about to be banned? i would own a ps-90 if i hadn't heard that

Haven't heard anything new about this. It used to be exclusivly only avaiable to military and Police agencies, but now can be purchased by anyone. Getting armor piercing rounds on the otherhand is nearly impossible and illegal.

I seen a FN five seven under glass at Bass Pro Shopes after this one was aquired and was shocked that Bass Pro carried it. Can't be under too much scrutiny. I buy all 5.7 ammo from Bass as well.

~Mike......
 
I've got a few spikes lowers I'm building up. I bought 4 when they were on sale for $89 a peice a year ago. Couldn't pass on them at that price.
 
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